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An open letter to Pope Francis

A long time ago, soldiers used to put their ears to the ground to listen for any noises. Normally they would know if a group of troops were approaching their land. Nowadays we expect all leaders to listen to what’s going on in the world. They have several modern ways to ‘listen to the ground’.

It’s an open secret that most people are in favour of married priests. There is no need of any proof because any survey in any part of the world will swing to one direction: married priests now!

Yet for some unknown reason you chose to go against the grain! How are the people allowed to feel now? They were sure that you had listened to their cries, yet, you chose differently! Why? Is this a listening church?! It’s surely NOT! Do you believe that God can speak through his people?

On our website we have hundreds of stories of priests falling in love with other significant ones. Besides there are many more stories who did not give us permission to publish their story. They are coming from all parts of the world. If you truly believe in the beauty of celibacy, have you ever listened to the bad side of it: ie forced celibacy on priests? Recently we had the story of two priests who forced their women to have an abortion in order to hide their sexual adventures! We weren’t allowed to publish their story. In a way you’re going to encourage similar stories even though each person has to carry his/her personal responsibility!

Another consequence of your decision is that once again we are re-enforcing the notion that sex and women are bad, or wrong or dirty! Indirectly we’re going back again to the idea that celibacy is superior to marriage. It’s useless to publish countless documents where you write that marriage is so important in the eyes of God. Well, your action speaks louder!

Another false opinion running around is that a married priest will not have enough time to serve his people. Well, could you please publish the working timetable of celibate priests? Most churches in Western Europe are empty. They rarely visit homes. So where are they working after celebrating mass?

You have emphasized the importance of the Eucharist for any community in the world. Truly it is the right spiritual nourishment for our spiritual growth. What answers are you going to give now that most communities don’t have resident celibate priests? Please, with all due respect, be aware that you’re putting a lot of responsibility on your shoulders. Many people will be leaving the church without the proper spiritual nourishment!

Some Catholic interpreters are saying that the pressure of the so called ‘traditionalists’ has taken its toll on you. Well, be aware that they are never going to be your supporters! But now you lost a great majority of others who were seeing you as a ‘different’ pope. You cannot imagine the disappointment, delusion and spiritual emptiness that they are feeling with your decision!

It has reaffirmed our personal decision of many years ago when we felt the decision to leave the official priesthood because of several matters which were against our conscience. Yes, a priest does not leave simply, because he cannot tame his sexual impulses! He leaves because there are several incongruences in the Catholic church – the latest being the prohibition of married people from priesthood, although people coming from the Anglican religion can stay married and enjoy married life!

Another contradiction is that we’re going against the bible which has ample proof that most of the apostles were married. Are we going to filter the bible? Are we going to pick and select what’s more suitable from the bible?

Your Holiness you come from the beautiful continent of Latin America where base level community is way of life in the church. You truly understand that the spiritual community intertwines with their daily needs. Imagine if a priest is married and has children. What a beautiful position that would be to connect with many other married people in the church. He won’t preach with words but would rather be a living testimony to the whole community. Alas we are being deprived of such testimony…We have so many priests who are happy to make our stone churches richer but our living church is poor.

We are afraid that history is going to repeat itself! Pope Paul VI was seen in a very bad light after going against the commission who were in favour of contraceptives. It has made him appear in a different light altogether. You are a strong defender of immigrants and the poor people. Well, all that will go down the drain. History will only remember that you said ‘no’ to married priests!

According to the teaching of the church and recently affirmed by your Holiness (https://religionnews.com/2013/09/11/pope-francis-tells-atheists-to-obey-their-conscience/), we go for a different road where we feel we are being called to serve the people of God as married priests, as priesthood is forever and indelible.

According to the law of the church, no priest shall deny any service to lay people who come in good spirit! We are living in an emergency era in the Catholic Church of today. Many people need more priests not simply to fulfill their Sunday obligation but for more services, help, counselling, teaching etc…Nobody would wait for the Pope’s permission when one sees another Catholic in an emergency!Emergency is not simply at the point of death but rather the bigger flock with no shepherd, according to biblical information!

One final note: although we are not vociferous like the so called ‘traditionalists’. Please don’t take it as just an opinion of just one website. Here are some articles which clearly shows that other people are on the same bus!

https://www.futurechurchnews.org/article/pope-francis-with-all-respect-you-should-have-done-more

https://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-sides-traditionalists-priest-celibacy-040755784.html

https://www.catholicchurchreform.org/216/

https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/disappointment-outrage-over-papal-document-amazon?clickSource=email

https://international.la-croix.com/news/deciding-not-to-decide-for-now/11818

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-51474009

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2020/01/lebanon-married-priests.html

Facing Opposition

When facing some opposing factions in the church, one of the known weapons is the one to put the opponents way of thinking to ridicule! If we are promoting married priesthood, expect them to say that married priests will now solve all the problems in the church, obviously, ironically! [See link]

One expects that they will mention the challenge of divorce plus the challenge of having atheist teens etc…Besides they will mention ad nauseam the fact that there will be less time for the church once the priest has to take care of the family too!

We shouldn’t be afraid to put forward our ideas. Just let’s start preparing for the Advent season especially when the Pope’s final report about the Amazon synod will be published around Christmas. In the festive season of Christmas we will be celebrating the greatest mystery of them all – God the all powerful chooses to become a small, fragile baby born in the most poor and risky areas of them all. Couldn’t we debate why God become so small and risked everything? Yes, if we just see things with human minds. I could imagine security people nervously running around looking for possible trouble outlets or suspicious people around. Yet this was the will of God, the most powerful! Pope Francis too would like to mingle with common people and hear what they have to say. He does not live in an ivory tower!

Married priesthood, like Christmas, would like to bring to one common meeting point both the priest and all the married people by suggesting married priests. It will surely be a testimony to all married Christians as to how live the gospel in today’s life. It’s another help in the life of the priest to preach a more contemporary Christ to the listeners of today’s life! He won’t be simply preaching to others how to maintain a stable relationship in love, nor how to educate young people, because he would have his own personal challenges!

We are not dreaming because if we study the beginning of the Catholic church, that’s how it started. Most of the apostles were married and had children! (see the Gospel according to Matthew: 8:14-15) Somehow along the way we decided not to follow the apostles example! How can we justify that?

Promoting married priesthood in the Catholic church we know that it will create a lot of tension. Some people can’t handle it just because they have been brainwashed for quite a long time. They can’t escape their long years of repetitive teaching! Others will feel at a loss as to how react. Their implant that sex cannot mix with spirituality has been radically rooted in their spiritual welfare! They feel that the church is going down the hill and maybe all will be lost! Some of them might go all out to lash out on people their misogynist trends!

All believers should strengthen their faith that Our Lord is never going to leave His church alone to succumb to fatal injuries or sins! It’s His church. It will stand the test of time plus other challenges. Whether we see God’s writing in the history of today or not, we firmly believe that nothing happens without His Will. Many times it’s us that we can’t see his weaving of today’s new church emerging from the previous old skin! As humans we are accustomed to compare with what we have witnessed years ago when we received the first holy communion! Well our bodies have changed too. We have lived change not only to what concerns our outside image, but all our inside, including our spiritual experience. If we don’t grow we can’t live!

Whatever happened since that faithful day, we have progressed to become adults who have to face new challenging situations. Now it’s up to us to answer in a mature way. We can’t copy our past life when we were so young. Life has changed. Not just our lives but that of other people too. We have to find new answers for today’s challenges. We are presenting the married priest as a new way forward!

Hello! My name is Laura. I want to share with you my relationship with my priest.

I’m a separated woman. I had to leave my husband of 5 years. He had betrayed me and now has another family, though we are still not divorced officially.

First of all let me be very clear: The priest is the one who started the relationship. I knew him for over 6 years at that time. Because of our mutual friendship, we got closer. Once after dinner, we went for a walk. Suddenly he held me and kissed me. He did admit of having feelings for me. At that time I was still struggling, but he told me that he wasn’t going to force me to have a loving relationship. He just wanted to stay close. After around 2 months he showed that he cared for me a lot. At that time I had some feelings too towards him. He told me I could trust him. He showed many signs that he really loved me. Time passed by and we became closer and knowing each other more. I fell in love deeply. He introduced me to his mother and to his family

Then sex happened. It has been going on for these last 2 years, till a few months ago. I got pregnant. As soon as I gave him the wonderful news, he astonished me by saying that we couldn’t keep this baby. I was so depressed hearing him say such a thing. I plainly told him that I couldn’t accept. At last he changed his mind. He considered to keep the baby. However I had a miscarriage. Could we keep our relationship I pondered silently…?? We had some serious arguments.

He suddenly said that maybe it was God’s sign to stop having sex outside marriage! We needed to stop having sex and keep our friendship platonic. He told me that he had confessed already, and that he loved me so much. His wish was to stop having sex. Consequently we couldn’t sin any more.

We could keep our love relationship but just without sex…. I asked point blank: Why not leave priesthood and get married? It’s so weird…He emphasized that he loved me so much, but that he couldn’t leave priesthood.

Since last January, something happened. We keep arguing about something trivial. We argue about some family affairs about his sister..?? He has now turned to be an emotionless person, with less hugs, kisses and less dating with me. I try to talk to him, but he says that everything is fine. He gives the excuse of too much work and that he feels tired. He continues to say that he still loves me. He just brushes me aside with the expression that he loves me so much. He urges me not to worry.

On the other hand he thinks that the fighting is God’s sign to show him that he is wrong, but he does feel his love for me. The priest thinks that he needs to follow his vow of celibacy, because he did promise to God that he will be faithful to his promise. But celibacy is not a divine law, it’s a human law after all!

I don’t understand…I feel so confused. What can I do? I really love him and I cannot live without him. What should I do? What should I tell him???

I would like to write about a whole book about this story but I prefer to let the readers air their views. Please let’s not blame the person who was/is in a frail situation. Let’s walk in her shoes.

Why does one disobey? There could be millions of reasons. But imagine obliging somebody not to eat for a long time. Although one does not want to disobey, yet deep deep down he feels that he/she is right and he/she cannot side with this kind of law. Now this is just a silly example but there are many instances in the Catholic Church where many people feel that they are at odds with the Pope.

The Catholic church has always used the dogma and obedience to silence the people. In some parts of the world, people are afraid to go against the Catholic Church. The church itself always felt that it is an authority when it comes to religious matters. It prefers to write long, theological documents which the common people understand very little. The common man is facing life with all its challenges. One is facing various dilemmas. Although the common people are not endowed with theological reasons, yet the common sense and the experience of everyday life counteract the ignorance of theology. As we have been insisting for a very long time, God uses anybody and any circumstance to bring out his Word. The common people reach their own conclusion regarding what God wants them to do.

Fifty years ago, the Second Vatican Council inaugurated a new type of theology: starting from the common experience and finding God in the same experience. Now it seems that we are going back to square one: we start from dogma or documents and we have to make people believe it! We don’t care what the common people say. I’m fed up with clerics who always have a ready made answer to silence the people when they disagree with the Pope. It seems that they live on another planet where life is totally different. Just hearing some Sunday homilies, one understands that they keep harping on the same matters, yet the common people have other more urgent challenges to face!

What’s beautiful about the Second Vatican council is that the conscience is supreme when it comes to decision making! Yet most of the priests do not preach this value to the people in order to keep them feeling guilty. Now guilt feeling has been abused in the Catholic Church in the sense that when one goes against some teaching they feel as if they are committing a crime. Personally I know many people who agree with some practical teaching, yet they still don’t have the energy or power to cross the line. This is because in some areas the Catholic Church makes it very difficult to go against it! The case in Germany is a case in point: if one does not give money to the church, one should not expect any services from the church.…how about reading the gospel and finding where and when Jesus asked for money first, service later on?? To add insult to injury, it’s the official church which sometimes accuses people who want to go on their spiritual journey, albeit in a different path, as cafeteria Catholics where they select what pleases them from the official teaching. Just mentioning the word ‘money’ should make the Church blush…..

On a positive side more married priests come to the Catholic church! Even people who have no idea who the Catholic Church is, yet they see this action as a possible big change in the future! It is preparing people to accept married priests. Obviously the church would have a problem with money because they need to financially support a married man, possibly with children and a wife, and that could be the real challenge from the point of view of the church.